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#86: How senior PMs get 10x leverage by “hiring” AI agents | Jacob Bank (Founder/CEO @ Relay.app)
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#86: How senior PMs get 10x leverage by “hiring” AI agents | Jacob Bank (Founder/CEO @ Relay.app)

A deep dive into how AI agents are reshaping product work, why PMs will soon manage automated teams, and the new skills required to thrive in an AI-native world.

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In the first-ever live recording of Supra Insider, Marc and Ben sat down with Jacob Bank, founder of Relay.app, to unpack one of the most urgent questions facing product leaders today: How do AI agents actually change the way we work? Instead of abstract predictions, Jacob shares the very real workflows, failures, and breakthroughs behind running a 10-person company that delegates work to more than 300 AI agents.

Across the conversation, the three dig into what PMs must learn next: writing job descriptions for agents, architecting responsibilities, managing automated execution, and understanding how agents influence velocity, product quality, and cross-functional collaboration. Jacob also discusses why PMs are lagging behind engineering and ops in adopting agentic workflows, and what will happen to teams who don’t catch up.

If you’re a PM, founder, or operator trying to understand how AI is reshaping product development, or you’ve struggled to translate “agent hype” into concrete, repeatable workflows, this episode gives you a realistic, practitioner-level framework for building with agents today, and preparing for what’s coming next.

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In this episode, we covered the following topics:

  • (01:27) Jacob’s background and why PMs should care about AI agents

  • (04:37) Why this session focuses on “hiring AI agents like employees”

  • (07:38) The AI org chart explained — the Reddit marketing agent

  • (15:05) Managing agent performance — firing, reviewing, and iterating

  • (18:39) The hype cycle — why “AI agents are real” matters

  • (25:55) What tasks should not be agents (one-offs, planning, magic tasks)

  • (33:13) Building an AI agent live

  • (37:42) Where agent outputs should land — Slack, Gmail, Docs

  • (46:54) The six agents every PM should “hire” today

  • (50:16) Deterministic vs agentic automations — the reliability spectrum

  • (55:19) Making agents work in enterprise environments with locked-down systems

  • (1:03:16) Live demo: Natural Language Builder using Relay.app

  • Live Audience Q&A:

    • (1:07:46) QA best practices — how to trust agents before delegating

    • (1:09:21) Cost breakdown — why credits don’t matter if value compounds

    • (1:12:16) The most expensive agent Jacob runs (customer health scoring

    • (1:13:45) Why simple feedback loops fail — thumbs up/down isn’t enough

    • (1:15:20) Agent drift, hallucination, precision, and the role of clarity

  • And more!


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